{"id":1881,"date":"2014-03-17T08:00:50","date_gmt":"2014-03-17T07:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/blog\/en\/?p=1881"},"modified":"2015-05-29T13:41:14","modified_gmt":"2015-05-29T11:41:14","slug":"the-lord-of-the-low-tones-%e2%80%93-tobias-glockler-in-conversation-about-dragonetti%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfamous-solo%e2%80%9d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2014\/03\/17\/the-lord-of-the-low-tones-%e2%80%93-tobias-glockler-in-conversation-about-dragonetti%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfamous-solo%e2%80%9d\/","title":{"rendered":"The lord of the low tones \u2013 Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler in conversation about Dragonetti\u2019s \u201cFamous Solo\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1885\" style=\"width: 154px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/gloeckler_foto.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1885\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1885\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/gloeckler_foto.jpg\" alt=\"Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler\" width=\"144\" height=\"197\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1885\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The double bass entered the Henle publishers\u2019 catalogue a few years ago by way of the Dresden double bassist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/the-publishing-house\/contributors\/tobias-gloeckler.html\" target=\"_blank\">Tobias Gl\u00f6ck\u00adler<\/a>. Entirely classically, to begin with, through the concertos by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22no.+1%22+%28with+Violin+obbligato%29_721\" target=\"_blank\">Hoffmeister<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22E+major%22+Krebs+172_759\" target=\"_blank\">Dittersdorf<\/a>, but soon also joined by some\u00adwhat exotic titles such as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Twelve+Waltzes+for+Double+Bass+Solo_847\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Twelve Waltzes<\/em> by Dragonetti<\/a> for Double Bass or the famous <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Elephant+from+%22The+Carnival+of+the+Animals%22+for+Double+Bass+and+Piano_730\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Elephant<\/em> from Saint-Sa\u00ebns\u2019 <em>Car\u00adni\u00adval of the Animals<\/em><\/a>. \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d by Domenico Dra\u00adgo\u00adnet\u00adti, most recently published in the version for doub\u00adle bass and string quartet, now even presents a first edition of a doub\u00adle bass work in our publishing-house programme. Here you can read how it came about&#8230;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>Annette Oppermann (AO)<\/strong>: Mr Gl\u00f6ckler, how did we actually come by \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1907\" style=\"width: 231px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Engraving_dragonetti.jpeg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1907\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1907\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Engraving_dragonetti.jpeg\" alt=\"Domenico Dragonetti (1763\u20131846), Source: Wikimedia.org, Licence: PD\" width=\"221\" height=\"256\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1907\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Domenico Dragonetti (1763\u20131846), Source: Wikimedia.org, Licence: PD<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler (TG):<\/strong> After the successful e\u00addi\u00adti\u00adon of the Dragonetti waltzes for double bass solo (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Twelve+Waltzes+for+Double+Bass+Solo_847\" target=\"_blank\">HN 847<\/a>), Dr Gertsch, the Henle Verlag\u2019s head of publishing, asked whether I wouldn\u2019t also like to e\u00addit a work of Dragonetti\u2019s for double bass and pi\u00ada\u00adno. A short time later, whilst on holiday in England, I detoured to the British Library\u2019s manuscript rea\u00adding room in London for a day and viewed there Dra\u00ad\u00adgo\u00ad\u00adnet\u00ad\u00adti\u2019s extensive estate holdings. In the course of this, \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d very quickly crys\u00adtal\u00adlised as mu\u00adsi\u00adcal\u00adly worthwhile. What came to light as a prob\u00adlem during work on the publication was then \u2013 pa\u00adra\u00addo\u00adxi\u00adcal\u00adly enough \u2013 the really o\u00adver\u00adwhel\u00adming source situation: The work seems to have been Dra\u00adgo\u00adnet\u00adti\u2019s absolute \u201cshowpiece\u201d; it has sur\u00advived in 13 (!) different sources for miscellaneous settings and in various work stages. Now, the de\u00adcid\u00ading question to be cleared up first of all had to be the \u201cdefinitive version\u201d. What became apparent in the process was the fact that this is most likely to be an autograph version for double bass and string quartet. Although I had not at all sought this in London, I soon found this setting very appealing. Dragonetti quite sophisticatedly utilised the ac\u00adcom\u00adpany\u00ading quartet in \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d, from accompanying in places the double bass ve\u00adry economically with only two violins in the 1<sup>st<\/sup> movement,&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Partitur.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1929\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Partitur.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1339\" height=\"868\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Partitur.jpg 1339w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Partitur-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Partitur-1024x663.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1339px) 100vw, 1339px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;right up to achieving nearly an orchestral effect in several sections of the rondo, as can be heard in our live recording on YouTube:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/h8-hq49NoBU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>But found concurrently are also various contemporary piano arrangements documenting that Dragonetti himself did not play \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d only with orchestral and cham\u00adber-music accompaniment, but also with piano. Fortunately enough, the publishing house was immediately ready to incorporate both versions into the edition. Hence, this also enables the present-day double bassist to have Dragonetti\u2019s historically-authentic fle\u00adxi\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adty in scoring.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> What is actually the appeal for an active musician such as yourself in editing Urtext editions? Would musicians rather do other editions once in a while that provide for more freedom of arrangement?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> Unlike what might perhaps be supposed, I as a musician in no way conceive the pre\u00adpa\u00adra\u00adti\u00adon of an Urtext edition as a constraint, but rather as a refreshing concentration on what is essential and as an opportunity to scrutinise past performance conventions (even my own). At the same time, an editor has a lot of freedom and room for personal cre\u00ada\u00adti\u00advi\u00adty in, for example, the cadenzas (for the so-called specific part in the edition). Even with \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d, each return of the rondo theme in the Allegretto was of course pro\u00advid\u00aded with an improvised mini cadenza, a so-called \u201cintroduction\u201d, that in Dragonetti\u2019s case is indicated only with a fermata. For the edition I have attempted in the brief ne\u00adces\u00adsa\u00adry introductions to write in the style of the work, but in character, variously:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Eingaenge.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1932\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Eingaenge.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"557\" height=\"635\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Eingaenge.jpg 557w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Eingaenge-263x300.jpg 263w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 557px) 100vw, 557px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Concerning your question about \u201cother\u201d editions, individual works would in fact entice me, especially those not originally written for double bass. Nevertheless, since I am ra\u00adther crucially opposed to transcriptions, only pieces composed for instruments that are hardly still in use today come into question. So, for me <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xXqaUwH8h8k\" target=\"_blank\">Bach\u2019s <em>2<sup>nd<\/sup> Gamba sonata<\/em> BWV 1028<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=436ZjPkzL88\" target=\"_blank\">Schubert\u2019s \u201cArpeggione\u201d sonata<\/a> are at the top of my wish list. Both works have long been part of the standard double bass repertoire without having had available real source-critical editions for interested musicians. Outstanding editions of both works have already appeared, incidentally, in the Henle publishing house, not only for cello, in\u00adte\u00adres\u00adting\u00adly enough, but al\u00adso for the viola sounding an octave higher. Why not then possibly also one for the double bass an octave lower\u2026?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> Yes, here we\u2019re at the difficult question as to how many arrangements are to be al\u00adlowed in an Urtext publishing house (this was also pursued, incidentally, in a <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2012\/10\/30\/setting-version-arrangement-%E2%80%93-how-far-may-urtext-go\/\" target=\"_blank\">blog en\u00adtry<\/a>\u2026). But let\u2019s return again to the influence of Gl\u00f6ckler, the practitioner, on the for\u00adma\u00adtion of an Urtext edition. There is indeed not only the customarily marked string part in our case for which, besides fingerings and bowings, you determine cadenzas and in\u00adtro\u00adduc\u00adtions, but also the specific double bass question of the \u201ctunings\u201d that play a great role.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1949\" style=\"width: 295px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Stimmungen.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1949\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1949\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Stimmungen.jpg\" alt=\"Orchestral and solo tuning\" width=\"285\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1949\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Orchestral and solo tuning<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> The background for this subject so often somewhat confusing for outsiders is the \u201csolo tuning\u201d introduced in the 19<sup>th<\/sup> century by Giovanni Bottesini, in which the double bass is tuned a whole tone higher in order to sound brighter and be more capable of penetrating. Practically speaking, it\u2019s like this: the double bassist, for example, plays and fingers in D major, but is heard through the solo tuning in E major. So for this reason, the accompaniment must then naturally be in E major as well. This also explains why I cannot simply put the cello edition of the mentioned Bach and Schubert sonatas on the music stand.<\/p>\n<p>In practice, the solo tuning has generally caught on in the soloistic realm, in auditions, competitions and at conservatories, at least in Europe. In Anglo-Saxon countries the \u201cnormal\u201d orchestral tuning is more frequently used.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> And for that reason we likewise offer the accompanying parts for \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d not only in the notated key of E minor\/G major, but also transposed a tone higher (for so\u00adlo tuning) to F-sharp minor\/A major. But with the Hoffmeister and Dittersdorf con\u00adcer\u00adtos there is more yet:<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1954\" style=\"width: 248px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Wiener-Stimmung.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1954\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1954\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Wiener-Stimmung.jpg\" alt=\"&quot;Viennese tuning&quot;\" width=\"238\" height=\"129\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1954\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&quot;Viennese tuning&quot;<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> Yes, as if this were not already enough of a challenge, there is still also the historic \u201cViennese tuning\u201d, written for all the soloistic works of the Viennese classics. It is really a terrific experience to try out once long-known con\u00adcer\u00adtos such as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22E+major%22+Krebs+172_759\" target=\"_blank\">Dittersdorf<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22no.+1%22+%28with+Violin+obbligato%29_721\" target=\"_blank\">Hoffmeister<\/a> in this wonderfully sonorous (and handy!) tuning. In the Henle e\u00addi\u00adti\u00adons of the two concertos we have at\u00adtemp\u00adted with a practical fingering notation to reduce the \u201cin\u00adhi\u00adbi\u00adti\u00adon threshold\u201d for Viennese tuning and to a\u00adwa\u00adken inclination for the old tuning. It goes without saying that of course the \u201cnormal\u201d doub\u00adle bass parts for solo and orchestral tuning are also included in the edition.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> Apropos fingerings: Of whom are you thinking when notating this in a part?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> Fingering details are a difficult subject on the double bass precisely because of the variety of situations.  I have myself often been annoyed by wrong numbers in wrong pla\u00adces. Therefore, I only very sparingly put fingerings in the part marked, and in doing so, accommodate then \u201cevery hand\u201d. Through my pupils at the conservatory, I hope I have developed a really good \u201cfeel\u201d for this\u2026. The same is true of bowing notations: Due to the short bow \u2013 short in proportion to string lengths \u2013 there is seldom an \u201cideal\u201d bowing sug\u00adges\u00adtion with the double bass, but here each musician has his or her own experience. Accordingly, I hold back on this subject.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> How is Gl\u00f6ckler the musician to be distinguished essentially from the editor?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> A wide subject\u2026. Totally on principle, as musician I try to figure out first what the composer wants to express in every work. Thus, I first need an unadulterated music text, free of well-intentioned editorial additions, alterations, etc. (the \u201cold\u201d Dittersdorf edition is especially full of these!) \u2013 this already says: Urtext edition. On that basis, I work out my interpretation, which can at times also differ in dynamics, articulation, etc., from the Urtext, as long as I have good grounds for it.<\/p>\n<p>So, for example, in the Allegretto of \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d I play the rondo theme the last time as a boisterous stretta, bringing in the closing forte a measure and a half sooner and in staccato \u2013 none of that is in the autograph!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1968\" style=\"width: 577px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Rondothema-Autograph.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1968\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1968\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Rondothema-Autograph.jpg\" alt=\"excerpt of the autograph double bass part (Source: GB-Lbl: Add. Ms. 17832-4)\" width=\"567\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Rondothema-Autograph.jpg 1892w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Rondothema-Autograph-300x153.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2014\/03\/Rondothema-Autograph-1024x525.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 567px) 100vw, 567px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1968\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">excerpt of the autograph double bass part (Source: GB-Lbl: Add. Ms. 17832-4)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I am certain that here Dragonetti also especially teased out audience applause in some form or other, only he would not, of course, have had to write this down for himself in the notes. This freedom and the possibility of \u2018personalising\u2019 the reading are for me just what makes the music magnificent.<\/p>\n<p>In contrast to this, as editor I work as objectively as possible, with virtually scholarly me\u00adti\u00adcu\u00adlous\u00adness (and of course always with the knowledge of the practical playing effects of editorial decisions). If even once in the process Gl\u00f6ckler the musician should ever gain the upper hand, there is indeed still the incorruptible Henle editorial staff\u2026<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> Would you like to see any additional features, any other layout, in our classical Ur\u00adtext editions?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>TG:<\/strong> To me the concept of the classical Urtext edition is absolutely coherent. If I were per\u00admit\u00adted anything else, I would wish in the case of several editions for perhaps one page with source illustrations. The handwriting and the style of a music autograph already re\u00adveal something of the character of the work and even convey to the more practically-o\u00adri\u00aden\u00adted musician something of what it is specifically that constitutes an Urtext.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4e8db1\"><strong>AO:<\/strong> Mr Gl\u00f6ckler, we thank you for this interview \u2013 and herewith invite all our readers to engage in the conversation about Urtext editions for double bass.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The double bass entered the Henle publishers\u2019 catalogue a few &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2014\/03\/17\/the-lord-of-the-low-tones-%e2%80%93-tobias-glockler-in-conversation-about-dragonetti%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfamous-solo%e2%80%9d\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[407,408,410,411,303,409,280,3,173,349],"tags":[106,137,138,166,16,171,82,172,656,97,174],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1881"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1881"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1881\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}