{"id":3666,"date":"2016-06-27T08:00:10","date_gmt":"2016-06-27T06:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/blog\/en\/?p=3666"},"modified":"2016-06-27T09:32:08","modified_gmt":"2016-06-27T07:32:08","slug":"all-good-viennese-come-in-threes-dittersdorf-hoffmeister-and-vanhal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2016\/06\/27\/all-good-viennese-come-in-threes-dittersdorf-hoffmeister-and-vanhal\/","title":{"rendered":"All good Viennese come in threes: Dittersdorf, Hoffmeister and Vanhal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3667\" style=\"width: 163px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vanhal_Johann-Baptist.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3667\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3667  \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vanhal_Johann-Baptist-226x300.jpg\" width=\"153\" height=\"204\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3667\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Johann Baptist Vanhal<\/p><\/div>\n<p>With our most recent Urtext edition of Johann Baptist Vanhal\u2019s double bass concerto (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto_979\" target=\"_blank\">HN 979<\/a>), our series of the great classical double bass concertos is complete: For Vanhal\u2019s concerto, just like those by Dittersdorf  (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22E+major%22+Krebs+172_759\" target=\"_blank\">HN 759<\/a>) and Hoffmeister  (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Double+Bass+Concerto+%22no.+1%22+%28with+Violin+obbligato%29_721\" target=\"_blank\">HN 721<\/a>), is written for the historic \u201cViennese double bass tuning\u201d that towards the close of the 18<sup>th<\/sup> century first generally helped to bring this instrument to \u201csoloist\u201d status. A modern, practical edition of these works is always a special challenge, such as we\u2019ve already made the topic of an <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2013\/09\/16\/high-time-for-the-low-register-%e2%80%93-the-double-bass-conquers-the-henle-catalogue\/\" target=\"_blank\">earlier blog<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler, a musician and editor extremely experienced in practical as well as philological matters, was again willing to take on this task.  In producing the Vanhal concerto, he now presents anew an edition optimally coordinating double bassists\u2019 needs.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">AO: Mr Gl\u00f6ckler, why do we actually need a new edition of this double bass \u201cclassic\u201d by Vanhal?<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3670\" style=\"width: 164px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Gl\u00f6ckler-Portr\u00e4t.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3670\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3670 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Gl\u00f6ckler-Portr\u00e4t.jpg\" width=\"154\" height=\"208\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3670\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tobias Gl\u00f6ckler<\/p><\/div>\n<p>TG: In competitions and auditions we are always astonished by the different variants in playing the Vanhal concerto. Apart from different keys there are, in particular, major differences in the octave registers of entire solo passages. And, as a matter of fact, the question of the \u201ccorrect\u201d octave register is for the double bassist not only of source-critical interest, but it also has a monumental impact on a passage\u2019s degree of technical difficulty! The primary concern of our edition is therefore to give the musician security and orientation in this sensitive area.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">What then is so problematic in the source about playing octaves? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Strictly speaking, only a few of the octave markings in the source are questionable. The main problem is that in many editions the original occurrence of octaves is simply missing. Occasionally added were even new octaves \u2013 not originally present at all. Contributing to the confusion is, furthermore, a characteristic notation typical of the time: Whole passages whose true sound is two octaves lower are notated in the source transposed into the high treble clef. This clef, today partly no longer in use, was also \u201ctranslated\u201d into wrong octave registers.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">The concerto is, indeed, extant only in a single source, from the estate of the double-bass virtuoso, Johannes Sperger (Schwerin, Landesbibliothek Mecklenburg-Vorpommern). Did he also have his finger in the pie? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Vanhal concerto comes down to us in a copy of the parts by an unknown, supposedly Viennese copyist, probably going back to the composer\u2019s autograph of the score, now lost. Extensive handwriting comparison done while preparing the new Henle edition revealed that in the first two movements probably all (!) octave occurrences come from the copyist mentioned and are hence authentic. Here, these could be of the greatest consequence for musical practice. Differing from the source was, for instance, the following passage, often played up to now an octave lower (from the treble clef, m. 93):<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3672\" style=\"width: 573px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-4-Z-1-4.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3672\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3672  \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-4-Z-1-4-1024x429.jpg\" width=\"563\" height=\"235\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-4-Z-1-4-1024x429.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-4-Z-1-4-300x125.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 563px) 100vw, 563px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3672\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"> Henle edition, mvt. I, measure 93 (2nd note) \u2013 105, in the original octave register<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The theme of the II<sup>nd<\/sup> movement in the source is also notated an octave higher than printed in many editions:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3676\" style=\"width: 586px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-6-Z-1-31.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3676\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3676 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-6-Z-1-31-1024x328.jpg\" width=\"576\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-6-Z-1-31-1024x328.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/S.-6-Z-1-31-300x96.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3676\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henle edition, mvt. II, mm. 15\u201326, in the original octave register<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Only in the III<sup>rd<\/sup> movement do we find octave markings added in Sperger\u2019s hand, as comparison with the notation of his own handwritten cadenza shows. In addition, entries by at least one other, unknown writer are present. In editing, these further additions involve differentiated solutions:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3737\" style=\"width: 432px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-11.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3737\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3737  \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-11-1024x236.jpg\" width=\"422\" height=\"97\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-11-1024x236.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-11-300x69.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-11.jpg 1954w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 422px) 100vw, 422px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3737\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Section from the double bass part, mvt. III, mm. 91 ff., with 8va\/loco added by Sperger in mm. 92f.: Musically not mandatory, but logical, formally (cf. mm. 232f.). The later addition was adopted as an option in the edition.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_3741\" style=\"width: 629px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-21.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3741\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3741\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Faksimile-Beispiel-21-1024x413.jpg\" width=\"619\" height=\"255\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3741\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Section from the double bass part, mvt. III, mm. 37ff., with 8va\/loco added in mm. 39\u201344 in an unknown hand: Musically questionable, since the melodic voice-leading was destroyed in mm. 43-44 (unlike in the motive repeated in mm. 47f.). Furthermore, the parallel spot (mm. 171ff.) is likewise without octaves. This later addition was not adopted in the edition.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">Frequently in your Vanhal edition you have not adjusted parallel spots; also, differing articulation in parallel parts was not unified. Can we also overdo being faithful to the sources? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I think so. For me this would perhaps be the case if, regardless of the musical context, inaccuracies and mistakes in the source (culminating in recognizable errors) find their way into the music text. I\u2019m convinced that it is completely different in the case of articulation at parallel spots. Here, subtle differences mirror the articulation diversity typical of the time. The 3<sup>rd<\/sup> measure of the theme in the first movement already shows an astounding wealth of playful variants!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3679\" style=\"width: 522px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vergleich.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3679\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3679 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vergleich-1024x512.jpg\" width=\"512\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vergleich-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vergleich-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Vergleich.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3679\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henle edition, mvt. I, theme, articulation variants in mm. 23, 65, 91.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What a loss of vibrancy and esprit there would be if these details alone were \u201charmonized?\u201d And which variants would then be \u201ccorrect?\u201d (See also our <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2016\/01\/11\/parallel-passage\/\" target=\"_blank\">previous blog<\/a> dealing with the topic of parallel passages.)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">Normally in our editions for strings, we have an unmarked Urtext part as well as a part marked to show bowing suggestions and fingering. So this is also the case in your first edition of Dragonetti\u2019s \u201cThe Famous Solo\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=%22The+Famous+Solo%22+for+Double+Bass+and+Orchestra_1198\" target=\"_blank\">HN 1198<\/a>). In the Viennese double bass concertos, on the other hand, the Urtext part is considered only in the piano score. Why is that? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The reason for this is the already mentioned notation of the large portion of the solo part transposed into the high treble clef. In the piano score this notation can be retained without problem. In order to make the double bass part readable at all for contemporary usage, the \u201cold\u201d treble clef would have to be transferred to today\u2019s understanding of the music clef with clearly defined octave registers.<\/p>\n<p>In adding fingering and bowing suggestions for the marked part, I am, in general, extremely cautious (see the <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2014\/03\/17\/the-lord-of-the-low-tones-%e2%80%93-tobias-glockler-in-conversation-about-dragonetti%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfamous-solo%e2%80%9d\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dragonetti blog<\/a>). For this reason the solo parts enclosed in all the Viennese concertos are basically a synthesis: real-world Urtext part marked with minimal bowing and fingering.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">In the editions of the concertos by Dittersdorf and Hoffmeister, you have to some extent put together an \u201call-around, worry-free\u201d package with various parts for all possible double bass tunings and performance situations. Wouldn\u2019t again in the case of Vanhal the double bassists also benefit from this concept? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Yes, certainly! Next to transparency and source reliability, the publication has in particular one focus: The edition ought to be flexibly playable with the various double bass tunings. Therefore, the piano score would have to be printed twice in the tried and tested manner, since, for example, the solo tuning calls for an accompaniment transposed up a tone.<\/p>\n<p>Added as a further challenge in the Vanhal concerto is the fact that the work is traditionally played in two keys: effectively, C or D major.<\/p>\n<p>In order to take all this into consideration, enclosed in the edition are two separate volumes of double bass parts: printed in volume 1 is the most frequently played version in C major; volume 2 is devoted to the variant in D major as well as to the historic \u201cViennese tuning\u201d (<em>A-d-f sharp-a<\/em>). The latter is immediately playable from the printed, easily understandable fingering notation, and without tedious relearning. For specialists with experience in \u201cViennese tuning\u201d there is additionally an Urtext part without fingering notated that can be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/download\/979_Vanhal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">downloaded<\/a> from the Henle website.<\/p>\n<p>The follow overview shows the various playing options of the new Vanhal edition.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3683\" style=\"width: 586px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/performance-options.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3683\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3683 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/performance-options-1024x416.jpg\" width=\"576\" height=\"234\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/performance-options-1024x416.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/performance-options-300x122.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/performance-options.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3683\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Table of performance options from HN 979<\/p><\/div>\n<p>We should also still mention while on the \u201call-around, worry-free\u201d subject, that for the Vanhal concerto (as already for Dittersdorf and Hoffmeister), the score and orchestral parts are published in collaboration with the renowned <a href=\"https:\/\/www.breitkopf.com\/work\/9397\/kontrabasskonzert\" target=\"_blank\">Breitkopf &amp; H\u00e4rtel<\/a> publishing house. So, the double bass soloist can also rely on a totally matching package, culminating in the rehearsal letters for performances with orchestra.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">Extant together with the copied parts in the Sperger estate are also manuscript cadenzas for all three movements. As contemporaneous documents, we include these in our edition (as already in the Dittersdorf case) \u2013 nevertheless, you also offer your own cadenza. What is your point here, musically? <\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3739\" style=\"width: 633px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Kadenz1.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3739\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3739\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2016\/06\/Kadenz1-1024x455.jpg\" width=\"623\" height=\"281\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3739\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sperger\u2019s autograph cadenzas for mvts. I and II.<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">I have approached the topic of cadenzas rather unintentionally. Since as a musician I have not really warmed to either the Sperger cadenza or the frequently played cadenzas by H. K. Gruber, or to those by H. Schneikart, I eventually decided to write my own cadenzas. In the process it was especially important to me to stay stylistically, motivically and harmonically within the given classical framework. At the same time, I wanted to exploit all the possibilities of soloistic double bass music of that time, such as virtuosic runs, frequent double stops, arpeggios, harmonics and bariolage. The original idea of a cadenza \u2013 that is: to assert the virtuosity of the soloist appropriately \u2013 ought in no way to fall short of today\u2019s auditions\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4389bc\">In closing, a personal question: Dittersdorf, Hoffmeister or Vanhal \u2013 which of the three \u201cViennese\u201d do you most prefer to play? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Each concerto definitely has its very own appeal \u2013 I would certainly not like to commit myself there. Perhaps your question is best answered by: With the passage of time, fate was not at all kind to double bassists \u2014 just think of the lost double bass concerto by Joseph Haydn \u2014 I as musician am simply happy that we do have all three concertos! History could have gone otherwise\u2026.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With our most recent Urtext edition of Johann Baptist Vanhal\u2019s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2016\/06\/27\/all-good-viennese-come-in-threes-dittersdorf-hoffmeister-and-vanhal\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[319,313,408,536,3,173,535],"tags":[538,137,537,174],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3666"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3666"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3666\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3666"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3666"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3666"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}