{"id":4559,"date":"2017-09-04T08:00:46","date_gmt":"2017-09-04T06:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/blog\/en\/?p=4559"},"modified":"2017-09-01T12:51:56","modified_gmt":"2017-09-01T10:51:56","slug":"%e2%80%98but-it-says-in-the-autograph%e2%80%a6%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-on-a-frequently-posed-question-about-our-urtext-editions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2017\/09\/04\/%e2%80%98but-it-says-in-the-autograph%e2%80%a6%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-on-a-frequently-posed-question-about-our-urtext-editions\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018But it says in the autograph\u2026\u2019 \u2013 on a frequently posed question about our Urtext editions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4580 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/IMG_0455_b_Schubert.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"103\" height=\"77\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/IMG_0455_b_Schubert.jpg 680w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/IMG_0455_b_Schubert-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 103px) 100vw, 103px\" \/>Are you also one of those manuscript hunters on the Internet? It is, indeed, almost incredible how many music autographs have become freely accessible there these recent years. Whether we visit composers\u2019 pages like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.schubert-online.at\/activpage\/index.php?top=1&amp;sub=1&amp;lang=E\" target=\"_blank\">Schubert-online<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bach-digital.de\/content\/index.xed?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\">Bach-Digital<\/a> or ransack the relevant portals of larger (and also smaller!) libraries: From the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bach-digital.de\/servlets\/solr\/select?q=%2BobjectType%3A%22source%22+%2Bcategory%3A%22BachDigital_class_00000018%5C%3A0001%22+%2Bsource32workall%3A%22BWV+244%22+%2Bcategory%3A%22BachDigital_class_00000007%5C%3A0001%22+%2Bcategory%3A%22BachDigital_class_00000012%5C%3A0001%22&amp;fl=*%2Cscore&amp;sort=sourcesort01+asc&amp;rows=25&amp;version=4.5&amp;mask=search_form_source.xed\" target=\"_blank\"><em>St. Matthew Passion<\/em> <\/a>to <a href=\"http:\/\/beethoven.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de\/willkommen\/\" target=\"_blank\">Beethoven\u2019s <em>Ninth<\/em><\/a>, we find all sorts of exciting reading matter \u2013 stimulating also, of course, comparison with our Urtext editions.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So, for example, a violinist recently reported to us that from the great Ruggiero Ricci years ago he had learned that the Brahms violin concerto was always to begin absolutely legato. As proof Ricci pointed out the phrasing in the autograph score, already available at that time in facsimile.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4561\" style=\"width: 514px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Solostimme-Aut.png\" target=\"_blank\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4561\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4561 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Solostimme-Aut.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"504\" height=\"94\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Solostimme-Aut.png 504w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Solostimme-Aut-300x55.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 504px) 100vw, 504px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4561\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Excerpt from the autograph score, The Library of Congress, Washington<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A glance at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.loc.gov\/item\/78026635\/\" target=\"_blank\">source<\/a>, easily accessible today on the Internet, confirmed the violinist\u2019s recollection and led him to question why then there was an additional staccato dot at the 16<sup>th<\/sup>-note <em>e<\/em><sup>1 <\/sup>in our edition calling for a different articulation:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4562\" style=\"width: 561px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-Urtext-Stimme.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4562\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-4562 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-Urtext-Stimme-1024x188.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"551\" height=\"101\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-Urtext-Stimme-1024x188.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-Urtext-Stimme-300x55.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 551px) 100vw, 551px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4562\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Excerpt from the Henle Urtext edition<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The actual question was easily settled, though the all-too-familiar \u2018but it says in the autograph\u2026\u2019 led me for once to use the blog for a general reply, because we have already received countless enquiries starting with just these words. The notorious reference to the autograph naturally reflects first of all the high regard for the composer\u2019s autograph, indeed, the almost auratic quality many autographs have for musicians to whom Henle publishers also readily pay tribute with facsimile editions that include commentaries \u2013 not coincidentally, you will find a whole series of such <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/search\/index.html?catalogue=1&amp;q=faksimile&amp;s=\" target=\"_blank\">facsimile editions<\/a> in our catalogue.<\/p>\n<p>As a publishing house offering Urtext and composers\u2019 complete editions, we rightly have the reputation of taking into account this special significance of the autograph for the edition. But: In fixing a composition in writing, the (full score) autograph is so often only one element amongst many, which is why numerous other sources (insofar as they are extant) must usually still be consulted for an Urtext edition. The revised engraver\u2019s model or a composer\u2019s authorised first print can give further important evidence. In addition, parts are prepared for early performances, and for concertos, the solo part is often revised during an exchange of ideas with a performing musician. This is exactly the case with Brahms\u2019s violin concerto, whose various sources are, incidentally, delineated in an impressive stemma in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/detail\/index.html?Title=Violinkonzert+D-dur+op.+77_6005\" target=\"_blank\">Johannes Brahms Complete Edition<\/a>, jointly edited by Linda Correll Roesner and Michael Struck.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4563\" style=\"width: 293px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-GA-Stemma.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4563\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-4563 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-GA-Stemma-770x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"283\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-GA-Stemma-770x1024.jpg 770w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Brahms-GA-Stemma-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 283px) 100vw, 283px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4563\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stemma from the Johannes Brahms Complete Edition, vol. I\/9, Violin Concerto. (Click to enlarge.)<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_4569\" style=\"width: 89px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Joseph_Joachim.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4569\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4569 \" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Joseph_Joachim.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"79\" height=\"127\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Joseph_Joachim.jpg 470w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2017\/09\/Joseph_Joachim-188x300.jpg 188w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 79px) 100vw, 79px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4569\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joseph Joachim<\/p><\/div>\n<p>At Brahms\u2019s express wish, his friend, the violinist Joseph Joachim, had a very decisive impact here on the solo part: From the autograph violin part for the 1<sup>st<\/sup> movement (source A-Vl in the stemma) already sent him in August 1878, to the checking of the galley proofs of the piano arrangement and solo part 12 months later, he attended the work\u2019s genesis, meanwhile performing the work repeatedly, and exchanging ideas with Brahms about vital or possible changes. These corrections, mainly concerning placement of slurs, articulation and intricate chord fingerings were first stipulated in the separate autograph part, then in a separate copied part (AB-Vl<sub>2<\/sub>), but not necessarily in the autograph score. For this reason Brahms also specifically indicated to the Simrock publishers when the work was being prepared for publication, that the solo part was \u2018to be corrected from the separate part\u2019, but not, for instance, from the score.<\/p>\n<p>And so perhaps you can well imagine where the staccato dot in question comes from\u2026. Exactly: It is based (as detailed in the complete-edition\u2019s editorial report) on Joachim\u2019s entry in the autograph solo part \u2013 and also included in the printed violin part; but in the score the entry was inadvertently not adopted by the highly-reliable publishing-house editor, Robert Keller. Which only goes to show \u2013 even amongst editors, to err is human&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Are you also one of those manuscript hunters on the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2017\/09\/04\/%e2%80%98but-it-says-in-the-autograph%e2%80%a6%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-on-a-frequently-posed-question-about-our-urtext-editions\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[319,86,289,3,349,518,608],"tags":[663,63,97,520],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4559"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4559"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4559\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4559"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4559"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4559"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}