{"id":7515,"date":"2024-03-11T08:00:22","date_gmt":"2024-03-11T07:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/?p=7515"},"modified":"2024-03-19T11:09:13","modified_gmt":"2024-03-19T10:09:13","slug":"schonbergs-verklarte-nacht-in-a-special-kind-of-urtext-edition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2024\/03\/11\/schonbergs-verklarte-nacht-in-a-special-kind-of-urtext-edition\/","title":{"rendered":"Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s \u201cVerkl\u00e4rte Nacht\u201d in a special kind of Urtext edition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Arnold <a href=\"https:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/Schoenberg-2024\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s 150<sup>th<\/sup> birthday<\/a> is duly <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-7519\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"444\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr-169x300.jpg 169w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr-576x1024.jpg 576w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr-768x1365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Schoenberg_Hochformat_gr-864x1536.jpg 864w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a>being celebrated by Henle: Promptly scheduled to start the year is one of his most popular works, <em>Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/em> (Transfigured Night) for String Sextet (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.henle.de\/en\/Transfigured-Night-String-Sextet-op.-4\/HN-1565\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HN 1565<\/a>), now also finally published in a blue Urtext cover. Assisting me with this edition project has been one of <em>the<\/em> Sch\u00f6nberg specialists par excellence, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.henkguittart.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Henk Guittart<\/a>, violist of the former Sch\u00f6nberg Quartet, who has also conducted many performances of <em>Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/em>. Even before I had begun work on the edition, he had already presented me with long lists of questions and corrections to the score resulting from his decades of familiarity with the work. We then exchanged over the past year countless emails reflecting on the source situation in general and on many score details in particular \u2013 because it was precisely in this area of tension between fidelity to the sources and practicability that we had to create a music text not only fulfilling the Urtext criteria but also providing performers with an optimal basis for making music. In the following interview we look back at why this was not so easy.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Annette Oppermann (AO): Dear Mr Guittart, I would like to welcome you with a heartfelt \u2018Thank-you\u2019! Your contribution to our Sch\u00f6nberg edition is truly worth its weight in gold \u2013 thanks to your patience and perseverance in clarifying all the editorial details in our Urtext edition, we are now able for the first time to provide performers with much new and important information that we\u2019d like to discuss in the following. But let\u2019s start with a very personal question: when and how did you first encounter Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/span><\/em>?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Henk-Guittart-2021-B.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-7522\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Henk-Guittart-2021-B.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Henk-Guittart-2021-B.jpeg 456w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Henk-Guittart-2021-B-285x300.jpeg 285w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a>Henk Guittart (HG): Dear Ms Oppermann, our collaboration was for me also very important and interesting! In answer to your question: I first heard <em>Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/em> in 1971, at age 18, on a recording by Zubin Mehta conducting the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra. I still remember just how impressed I was and that this work, together with <em>Pierrot lunaire<\/em> (which, as a young violist, I rehearsed the same year in the predecessor to the Sch\u00f6nberg Ensemble that I later founded), led me, full of enthusiasm and fascination, to a lifelong love of Arnold Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s music.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/span><\/em> occupied Sch\u00f6nberg for a long time: After initially thoroughly revising the Sextet (composed in 1899) for publication in 1905, he then created in 1916\/17 a very successful first version for chamber orchestra. This entailed adding to the score a seventh (double bass) part, though leaving the basic music text essentially unchanged. In 1943 he revised it for a new American edition, wanting thereby to rectify the tonal shortcomings particularly pertaining to aspects of the earlier chamber-orchestra version\u2019s tempo and articulation. But there were also pecuniary motives: the composer, banned from performances in Germany, had immigrated to the USA and received no royalties there from the (comparatively frequent!) performances of this orchestral work.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7525\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7525\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7525\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-1024x695.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-1024x695.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-300x204.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-768x521.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-1536x1042.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Erstausgaben-Vergleich-2048x1390.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7525\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">left: first edition of the version for Sextet (1905); right: first edition of the version for chamber orchestra (1943)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Today, this orchestral score, published in 1943, is regarded by many chamber musicians as an important source of information for producing the Sextet \u2013 one such chamber player is, for example, Henk Guittart, who has not only played and conducted the work countless times, but also recently arranged it for piano trio. Why is the 1943 version so important for the Sextet\u2019s performance?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: Because it is, so to speak, Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s final word on this music. I am consequently also of the opinion that the early version from 1917 is superfluous or even invalid, meaning thus that such chamber orchestra performances do not represent the composer\u2019s intention. The 1943 full score consists of a very large instrumentation, with at least 64 strings, by which Sch\u00f6nberg creates wonderful layers of sound, alternating between <em>tutti<\/em> and soloistic scoring, as well as also the original Sextet at times! All the corrections and changes he made in the 1943 score reveal his practical experience, most likely gained from sextet and orchestral performances, also as conductor. In my opinion, almost all the changes are purely musical improvements, with only very few having to do with the conversion of chamber music to that for a large ensemble. When in 1981 as an expanded Sch\u00f6nberg Quartet we first rehearsed the sextet version, it was clear to me that we should take the 1943 score as our point of departure. Walter Levin, first violinist of the LaSalle Quartet, later told us that his ensemble had also done the same. But I believe that so far only a few colleagues have followed us in this direction. I am convinced that the new Henle edition will help to ensure that the real improvements in Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s hand now become more widely known.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: In our Urtext edition, however, we have nonetheless opted for a clear distinction from the orchestral version, as Sch\u00f6nberg never expressed any doubts about the sextet score and even explicitly described the performers\u2019 soloistic freedom in the chamber-music work as opposed to the orchestral version. We have made an exception in only one respect: the metronome markings. From the \u2018very slow\u2019 of the opening to the \u2018very fast\u2019 of the last section, the richly marked sextet score contains one or more tempo indications on almost every page, certainly raising questions about their exact implementation.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7526\" style=\"width: 360px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-scaled.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7526\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7526\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-scaled.jpg 1810w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-1086x1536.jpg 1086w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.16-1448x2048.jpg 1448w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7526\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cVerkl\u00e4rte Nacht\u201d, mm. 173\u2013187<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">That Sch\u00f6nberg also considered more information useful here is documented by his personal exemplar of the sextet score, in which he entered metronome markings (alas, only up to measure 181). We have therefore included in our edition (with appropriate identification, of course) the complete metronome markings realised for the 1943 orchestral version as authentic practical performance information that also provides interesting comparative values for the sextet version.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7527\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7527\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7527\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23.jpg 2187w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23-300x204.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23-1024x697.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23-768x523.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23-1536x1046.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/H1_op4_E1_22_23-2048x1394.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7527\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s personal exemplar of the first edition of the sextet score, mm. 175\u2013203<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">On the other hand, I couldn\u2019t decide to take on the fundamental revision of dynamics and articulation \u2013 which you, Henk Guittart, felt made sense. How so?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: Because I firmly believe that the 1943 version contains many improvements, especially in terms of articulation and dynamics. Although I fully understand, of course, that these changes cannot be incorporated within an Urtext edition of the Sextet.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: Especially as this would have meant that we would no longer have been able to show the sextet version\u2019s authentic layer of dynamics and articulation \u2013 which is definitely not compatible with the Urtext idea. Hence, only in exceptional cases did I consult the late orchestral version in my edition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">But your perspective on the work also convinced us. And so, we have opted for a completely new solution in the digital version of our <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/span><\/em> Urtext edition. Here, in the appendix, you provide our users with a marked version of our Urtext score that is more closely based on the 1943 orchestral version. What principles did you thereby follow, Mr Guittart?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: The dynamics and articulation are almost completely taken over from the 1943 score, the criterion in each case being whether the change would also be appropriate for the chamber-music version. There were only a few exceptions. In my opinion, this makes the sextet version even clearer and more pellucid. I was also glad to adopt the indication of passages with primary or secondary importance introduced by Sch\u00f6nberg in the late orchestral version, because it really promotes transparency.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: In order to capture clearly the differences from the original text in this version as well, we have ventured an experiment: marking the changes in red. Very laborious in printing, but comparatively easy \u2013 after a few attempts \u2013 to produce in digital form.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7528\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-scaled.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7528\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7528\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-1024x752.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"441\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-1024x752.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-300x220.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-768x564.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-1536x1129.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Seitenvergleich-2048x1505.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7528\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">left: Henle Urtext printed edition; right: Henle Library App, Appendix<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">But we should also reveal that this appendix score contains a few practical tricks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: Yes, for example, I added a <em>diminuendo<\/em> sign in the viola I, measures 47 and 49. Until recently, I could only justify this by saying that I found it musically appropriate. But since I heard the 1929 recording conducted by Sch\u00f6nberg himself, I believe even more firmly that it does no harm to add it as a recommendation.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7564\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7564\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7564\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"470\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43.png 2048w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43-300x282.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43-1024x963.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43-768x722.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-eng-m.-43-1536x1444.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7564\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henle Library App, Appendix, mm. 43\u201354<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In measure 330, I believe that the last note in viola I should be <em>g flat<sup>1<\/sup><\/em>, not <em>e flat<sup>1<\/sup><\/em>. I\u2019ve always played it that way because to me it seemed logical. But that\u2019s not found in any source. But now it can be read in my score.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7574\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7574\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7574\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"340\" height=\"196\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1.png 1226w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1-300x173.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1-1024x591.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/Abbildung_1-768x443.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7574\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henle Library App, Appendix, mm. 329\u2013330<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: Yes, this is one of the rare cases where even a pitch has been changed in the appendix score. In the Urtext edition, on the other hand, it is <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">e-flat<sup><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">1<\/span><\/sup><\/span><\/em>, but with a reference to the <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Comments<\/span><\/em>, where explained is that the interval of a 10<sup><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">th<\/span><\/sup> to the 1<sup><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">st<\/span><\/sup> pitch of the descending scale (instead of the octave interval as usual in mm. 330f.) is unusual and possibly a writing error by Sch\u00f6nberg running through all the sources, right up, incidentally, to the 1943 orchestral version!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: Then, there are also passages in my appendix score specifically recommending an easier execution. Although I think that the composer is always right in principle, I cannot understand why the cellos should change the double stops in measure 226, when all the other instruments don\u2019t. It doesn\u2019t alter the colour, only giving a possible instability for both cellos. That\u2019s why I suggest a part change here that solves the problem.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7556\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7556\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7556\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"464\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng-300x278.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng-1024x950.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng-768x712.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/App-T.-220-eng-1536x1424.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7556\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henle Library App, Appendix, mm. 220\u2013236<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Practically speaking, I would also recommend a different solution for the chord in measure 416: the <em>a<sup>1<\/sup><\/em> of violin I could be taken over by viola I, whose <em>a<sup>2<\/sup><\/em> could be taken over by violin I. This would avoid the fifth in the viola, which is sometimes unpleasant in this high register, and the open A string of violin I, which might be too low (after about half an hour), would no longer be a problem. Such suggestions are not in my score, because in my opinion that would be too much of a change. But I am happy to mention them here as insider tips for attentive readers of this blog post&#8230;.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7557\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-scaled.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7557\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7557\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"499\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-1024x1022.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-768x767.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-1536x1533.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-40-neu-2048x2044.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7557\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cVerkl\u00e4rte Nacht\u201d, extract mm. 413\u2013418<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: Many thanks for that! So, have all your questions about <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/span><\/em> been answered? Or are there still places for which you cannot find a conclusive answer?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>HG: Yes! I don\u2019t really understand what Sch\u00f6nberg meant by the <em>forte<\/em> in measure 21. Measure 20 is indeed already <em>forte<\/em> and then a <em>crescendo<\/em> to <em>forte<\/em>? Does that mean <em>subito meno forte<\/em> on the first beat of measure 21? We tried that once, and then it really sounds a bit overdone<strong>.<\/strong> Or does it indicate a climax? That\u2019s how I perceive it \u2013 and I only recently discovered that it also sounds like that in Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s recording from 1929. But ultimately the notation remains enigmatic!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7559\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-scaled.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7559\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7559\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-300x138.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-1024x472.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-768x354.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-1536x708.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/files\/2024\/03\/S.-2-1-2048x944.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7559\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cVerkl\u00e4rte Nacht\u201d, extract mm. 19\u201323<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">AO: And with this enigma, we conclude this blog post on our special edition of <em><span style=\"color: #6f90a7\">Verkl\u00e4rte Nacht<\/span><\/em>. Warm thanks for this interview!<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arnold Sch\u00f6nberg\u2019s 150th birthday is duly being celebrated by Henle: &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/2024\/03\/11\/schonbergs-verklarte-nacht-in-a-special-kind-of-urtext-edition\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[506,814,507,509,677,3,787,815,320,6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7515"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7515"}],"version-history":[{"count":32,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7515\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7576,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7515\/revisions\/7576"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7515"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7515"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.henle.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7515"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}